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538 02-21-2008 02:48 AM

$64,000 question
 
Ok, time for a straw poll.

Who thinks Juan gets into HOF with current stats?

Who thinks that Juan needs either 500 HR's or more hits to get HOF?

Who thinks that Juan gets denied HOF because of drugs?

Who thinks I am full of beans and Juan will never get HOF?

jjt111 02-21-2008 06:09 AM

I feel that he needs the 500 hr's to get in and for sure his current stats will fall short of him getting in.

nosterbor 02-21-2008 03:29 PM

ok,once again!all time career life time slug.pct.Juan ranks #19 better than Aaron,Mays,Griffey,Thomas,Sosa,Sheffield,Ortiz,Man tle,Bagwell,Frank Robinson,Musial now lets take home run totals and avg them into a 162 game season
#1 Mark McGwire 50
#2 Babe Ruth 46
#3 A-Rod 44
#4 Juan Gonzalez 42
#4 Albert Pujols 42
thats all time!!! lets see where A-rod & Pujols end up with when they are done playing! now lets do the same with RBI"S
now rbi's
#1 Gehrig 149
#2 Ruth 143
#3 Gonzalez 135
thats all time!!!
now lets take that and say he never got hurt and went on the DL. here are some fantisy numbers say his last year was 2004 thats 14 seasons he would have 1890 RBI'S and 588 home runs.
think its B.S. do your own research at baseball reference.com now you see why the Babe is considered the greatest of all time!!! Juan is even Greater than Bonds & Aaron
Nuff Said:p

nosterbor 02-21-2008 03:48 PM

one more thing! he was clocked has having the fastest swing in baseball on sunday night baseball 5 times.what would his numbers be if he used HGH or roids? also a fact!!! he had back and leg problems in 1990 as a rookie and even before then.he almost was not signed because of it! like the song says! "GIVE US DIRTY LAUNDRY"

freddie 02-21-2008 05:17 PM

He is never going in since he will always be borderline and so the steroid rumors will seal it against him.

nosterbor 02-21-2008 05:31 PM

NAY SAY'ERS!!!!!!!!!! NEGATIVITY BREEDS NEGATIVISM!!!!!!!!! SKEPTICS SHALL BE PROVEN WRONG! AND THEY SHALL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT!:mad:

freddie 02-21-2008 06:02 PM

Chill out, I'm just giving you my opinion on what the hall voters will do.

Gonzaleznut 02-21-2008 06:57 PM

I agree with Freddie, the Hall voters will not vote him in. He will always have the cloud of stereroids and late-career injuries hanging over him that will overshadow his statistical accomplishments. It is sad, but true.

freddie 02-21-2008 09:42 PM

His only shot is when the current crop of players are old and running the old timers club. Then he may get in that way.

Rafferity 02-21-2008 09:55 PM

Looking at his numbers, I say he has a shot. The 500 will help, but his accomplishments should stand for themselves. He may not be a 1st rounder due to the loom of the recent dealings. But I say he will make it. If they(HOF Voters) are going to allow suspiciousness, to rule their votes, remove all players since mid 90's just to play it safe. And give a test to all new comers every two weeks during the season and off. You wanna play baseball, let's play fair. But we shall see what this up coming season brings........


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